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percent on a meet-up day sounds
4:02
perfectly legitimate. As
4:05
always, a section of the bugle
4:08
is going straight in the bin. This week
4:10
we have life hacks from the animal world.
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We like to think of ourselves as the most
4:15
successful species on the planet, but are we really
4:17
living life the most efficient way? We
4:19
look in our section of the bin this week at potential
4:21
life hacks in the animal world that might help us humans,
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including don't sleep in six to
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eight hour chunks every day, save
4:29
it for one three or four month hibernation
4:31
every year, then work hard, play harder for
4:33
the remaining eight or nine months. And
4:36
also never forget, never remember. The
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life of a goldfish is
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generally one that is unencumbered
4:44
by historical fury, personal resentment,
4:47
or the kind of things that hold us back as
4:49
a species. So essentially those,
4:52
I think those are two things that would definitely
4:55
make us function better as a species. Any
4:57
other suggestions that things in the
4:59
animal world that you think would help us help us
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out on a personal level? Storing nuts. Right.
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Like squirrels do. Just maybe keeping bits
5:06
of food that you might have later
5:08
just in the pouches of your
5:11
cheek, like a little
5:13
food snooze. That
5:17
could work. I was just reading
5:19
octopuses, octopi, they hunt with fish
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and fish are like the henchmen.
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They go in there and
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sort of dig out stuff and then the prey
5:28
come out and then the octopuses. I quite like
5:30
some henchmen. You know, like when I step out,
5:32
just having a group of people, just
5:35
having the initial conversations and then I go and
5:37
have a conversation. Well, maybe, and would they, you
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know, a fish or an octopus could do that?
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I mean, particularly in modern soon season and
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it would be quite an effective way of
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doing things. I have an affinity with the
5:48
turkey vulture because it vomits as
5:51
a form of self-defense. I
5:53
am prone to a bit of that. Right. I
5:55
think we could encompass that more into
5:57
our dailies. You
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know, like I feel like other players need
20:02
to step up now. Yes. Well,
20:04
it does. It does seem that whatever we're doing
20:06
at the moment isn't really isn't really working. And
20:08
I mean, it's possible even rather than having countries,
20:10
you should just get randomly
20:13
selected people or even sports
20:15
teams from around the world
20:17
should be someone to write, OK, this week
20:19
you are going to sort out the
20:22
Middle East, the Middle East crisis,
20:24
the Jacksonville Jaguars. You're going
20:26
to take a week off your troubled start, the NFL
20:28
season, and you're just going to go out. You're
20:31
going to sort the Middle East, the Middle East. I
20:33
think I mean, that kind of Paris Saint-Germain could
20:35
just go. And instead of
20:37
playing playing overplayed football, they could just
20:39
I don't know. I mean, I haven't thought through
20:42
the logistics. I think Man City send them in
20:44
to sort out the Ukraine. It's about time we
20:46
started using sports washing for the
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purposes of goods and human progress. I
20:52
mean, for example, like you said, if the Saudis are
20:54
going to own the second moon, there's definitely going to
20:56
be a golf tournament on there. I
20:59
mean, UK
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news now and well,
21:07
news has broken. And when I say news
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has broken, news has been created that
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Boris Johnson, who created this piece of news, considered
21:16
invading the Netherlands. If
21:18
I may overstate things in a manner befitting
21:20
a story about Boris Johnson making up some
21:22
news in a new memoir
21:24
entitled Unleashed, Boris Johnson has claimed that
21:26
he considered a raid
21:30
by sea on a Dutch warehouse
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to seize COVID vaccines during
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the pandemic. Obviously, it's a
21:37
fun story, particularly for those people who like to look
21:39
back fondly on the time when we had a certifiable
21:41
fucking clown as prime minister. And
21:44
obviously, this is Boris Johnson.
21:47
He might have said that he was thinking of invading the
21:49
Netherlands, but we know he would not have invaded the Netherlands
21:51
because it would have been difficult.
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And that wasn't really his M.O. But anyway, the
21:55
deputy chief of the defense staff, Lieutenant General General
21:58
Chalmers, pointed out that was
22:00
only one potential problem with the plan which
22:02
would have involved apparently rigid inflatable boat boats
22:04
scuttling down dutch canals at the dead of
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night to seize vaccines from a warehouse had
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it happened which obviously could never have happened
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uh the only problem was that the uk would
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have had to explain why
22:16
we were effectively invading
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a long-standing nato ally
22:20
um therefore therefore
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this this otherwise apparently
22:26
flawless plan to
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steal vaccines from a dutch warehouse
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using inflatable dinghies but
22:33
that obviously just couldn't go ahead i mean uh
22:37
tiff i know you've been waiting for boris
22:39
johnson's memoir to be published as you know
22:41
the the book that you've been waiting for
22:43
all your life really um what did you
22:45
make of this story calling it unleashed sounds
22:47
like it's gonna have a tie-in fragrance which
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would probably be a fart if it was
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boris johnson i i feel like
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and also that suggests at some point in
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time boris was actually leashed like
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trained for orkies and punished for hiding
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in fridges um boris
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uh boris said we considered aquatic
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raid that's what was described as
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aquatic already it's got into bond
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territory immediately aquatic raid
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on netherlands to seize covid
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vaccine and i just sort of
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thought about this i was like of course because
23:18
any chance bozzer can have to make himself wish.com
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churchill he will take it so
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when uh lieutenant general doug charmers told
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the prime minister it was possible the
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plan was certainly feasible and would involve
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using rigid inflatable boats you know he
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was there going we will fight them
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on the beaches that's
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just an excuse to get that line out and
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then it's it's it's um
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it's that it well it's
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not baffling it's like you say it's not real news
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is it it's like the what does
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the book cover well it covers uh it
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it covers this plot uh oceans 11 or
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you know in this kind of version oceans
23:57
cunts um there doesn't need to
23:59
be 10 or 11 there just needs to be one. It just
24:01
needs to be Boris. But other parts
24:03
of the book have him denying
24:05
eating cake again. This is what
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we can expect from this exciting
24:09
tome, this hotly anticipated tome. Denying
24:12
eating cake as what he
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described as the feeblest event in the history
24:16
of human festivity, which was his
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56th birthday during lockdown. I saw no
24:21
cake. I ate no blooming cake. If this
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was a party, it was the feeblest
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event ever. I'd only just got over
24:27
COVID. I did not sing. I did not dance. So
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those appear to be the criteria for a
24:32
party. Whoever the party is in honor of,
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they must sing or dance. Otherwise it is
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not a party. So how
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many parties have you been to Andy that have not
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been parties? I've never seen
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you sing or dance. No,
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I don't think. Yeah. That
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means I've never been to a party, I think.
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Yeah, I've never held a party. Yeah. I mean,
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you were at my wedding reception. Maybe
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you sang, maybe you danced. I
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did neither of those things, Tiff. No, no. So
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was it even a party, Andy? Definitely
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not. Ash's 2005, Andy, I think
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ended up in a late night
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karaoke bar dancing with
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15,000 men. I have
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never in my almost 50 years on this
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planet, I have never done karaoke. And I
25:17
consider that half a century
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well spent. But
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then I'm a miserable f***er. So you know,
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you've got to balance that factor in as
25:28
well. We give Boris
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Johnson a lot of criticism for, you know, failing
25:33
to be the Churchill he always dreamed of being. But
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in many ways, he got halfway there, because
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Churchill famously said, I have nothing to offer but
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blood, toil, tears and sweat. And Boris Johnson has
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gone as far as I have nothing to offer.
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So it's a start. It's a start. It's
25:49
another piece of mopaganda. That's
25:52
what I call it when Boris spouts a bit of nonsense,
25:54
because he does it while messing up the hair. I
25:57
haven't read the book, but I just want to know,
26:00
think there's stuff in
26:02
there where Boris Johnson takes credit
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for great moments of British history
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where in some inexplicable
26:08
way he was present like
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Normandy for example. Yeah
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I would hope so. I hope he's
26:16
claiming that he was the genius
26:18
behind most of his and Bard Kingdom Brunel's
26:20
best works and probably
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wrote half
26:24
of Shakespeare's well not all of Shakespeare's history
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plays given they're absolutely
26:29
full of bullshit. That
26:31
would stack up I think. Battle
26:35
of Hastings? Yeah. Probably
26:37
he's great great great great great great
26:40
great. You probably came up with the
26:42
word ashes after his turn breakup because
26:44
the driver really needed a title. Bugle
26:50
crime section now and it's
26:53
been a while since we had a crime section in the audio
26:55
newspaper. Can
26:57
you remember if you've done a crime section before? We
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just talked about Boris Johnson so this
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is our first crime section for half a
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minute here on the bugle. Very
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exciting news this it's
27:16
been claimed that artificial intelligence
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could solve cold
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cases. A
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chair of the National Police Chiefs Council claimed
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that historic crimes could be
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solved. This technology I mean I should before
27:31
before we do this I should emphasize
27:33
that no bugle co-host has been involved in any
27:36
historic crimes. Anuvab for example was not responsible for
27:38
a series of bank robberies in 1920s
27:40
Michigan. Tif
27:43
Stevenson did not assassinate
27:46
the king of Ruritania in
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the 1840s and
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none of our other co-hosts have done things like
27:52
that either. But apparently this AI
27:55
detective work can rifle through evidence
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at such a rate that it can process
27:59
in just 30. hours, the
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amount of evidence that would take a single human detective 81 years
28:04
to get through, which
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I think means that if we stick with
28:10
human cops and each case takes 81 years,
28:12
no crimes would ever be solved before those
28:14
cops died, which might explain why things take
28:16
so long to get through the court. I
28:18
misunderstood that. But anyway, about 30 years to
28:20
do 81 years worth of work,
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it's so high powered that it can
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even fill in the necessary paperwork associated
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with 81 years worth of
28:29
human police detection in just
28:32
412 years. The
28:34
breakthrough has raised hopes that even more
28:37
excitingly than writing the failures
28:39
of justice, this same technology
28:41
could produce up to 2,700 true
28:43
crime podcasts
28:46
per second, which could
28:48
make it the most significant
28:50
technological advance in
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human history. Tiff,
28:55
I know that you're a huge
28:57
fan of AI taking over every
28:59
aspect of human life. This must
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be particularly exciting.
29:04
It can simultaneously examine information from
29:06
multiple sources, including videos, social media,
29:09
emails and hard drives. And then
29:11
the chairman of the National Police
29:13
Chiefs Council, Gavin Stevens, even suggested
29:15
it could be used to crack
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previously unsolved cases like Jack
29:20
the Ripper. Yes, it's
29:22
going to go on JTR's Facebook page
29:24
and trawl his posts. The
29:26
lethal the lethal apron
29:28
has checked into the 10 bells in
29:31
Whitechapel. What's on your mind
29:33
feeling stabby today? You know, Facebook memory
29:35
pops up and it says share this spree from
29:39
1890 with a couple of laughing emojis and one of
29:41
a scalpel. Like we don't
29:43
we don't need cold cases. We
29:46
don't need AI on cold cases. We have
29:48
internet detectives for that. We have obsessed middle
29:50
age women get out of our way. We're
29:52
busy doing that. This is technology coming for
29:54
our jobs once again. How am I going
29:57
to spend my afternoons if it cannot be
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politics gets what, logically, it is headed
32:02
for, which is two
32:05
criminals up against each other. For
32:08
legal purposes, I should say that Eric
32:10
Adams is not yet a criminal. I tell you who you
32:12
need to leave it to investigate as to whether or not
32:14
that is true. Middle-aged women on the
32:16
internet, thank you. So
32:19
he's being investigated for getting
32:21
thousands of dollars worth of gifts
32:23
from Turkish investors, right? And I'm
32:26
sure you guys have talked about this on the bugle. Recently,
32:28
your prime minister got thousands of
32:30
pounds of clothes as presence.
32:33
Now, just the Indian perspective here. Where
32:36
is the crime here exactly? In
32:41
our politics, we would just refer to this as
32:43
Tuesday. Give
32:46
me an example of a local Mumbai politician,
32:48
a local Mumbai politician, a city
32:51
MLA. He got convicted
32:53
for a bribe. Basically,
32:55
he spent the money building a high-rise
32:57
building. He lives in it. The guy
32:59
that gave him the bribe lives on
33:02
the floor below, and the guy prosecuting
33:04
them lives above. So everybody
33:07
happy. I
33:09
think there's still ways to think. Now- Did
33:11
they call that a corruption sandwich? Here's
33:17
the weird thing. There's a lot of talk about
33:19
the Indian prime minister being not corrupt. Famously,
33:22
there are loads of articles about how he's cleaning
33:24
up the system. That's why there's
33:26
a strong argument going around India
33:28
that the prime minister Modi may be foreign,
33:31
because not taking bribes is not in our
33:33
DNA. Till an
33:35
editorial recently said that maybe someone's
33:37
giving him a bribe to not
33:39
take a bribe. And
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finally, on this week's bugle, our
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tech and entertainment section.
33:53
Well, technology
33:55
continues to drive humanity
33:58
simultaneously forwards, backwards, sideways
34:01
and wildly often on track all at
34:03
the same time. Tif,
34:07
there's been a suggestion that tech
34:10
could provide a solution to government
34:13
inefficiency. The CEO
34:15
of JPMorgan Chase
34:17
has backed Elon
34:20
Musk's proposal to create a
34:22
Department of Government efficiency. I
34:26
mean, politics prides itself on
34:28
being as inefficient and counterproductive as possible.
34:30
Is this really something that's going to
34:33
catch the imagination of our legislators?
34:37
Well Musk is already expecting Trump to
34:39
win and he
34:41
floated the idea that
34:44
he would work in
34:47
Donald Trump's government as part of a new
34:49
commission if the election were
34:51
to go his way in November. But the efficiency
34:53
department, I can already see it as a sitcom.
34:56
Elon playing a David Brent-esque character
34:58
who embarrasses everyone with his
35:00
shocking dancing first day on the job. The
35:03
first episode revolves around a meeting to see
35:05
how the department can be more efficient and
35:07
it takes six hours. And
35:09
then Jamie Dimon puts some poor civil servant
35:11
stapler in jelly and someone starts a game
35:13
of football, sorry soccer, in the printing room
35:15
and it all kicks off. I'm
35:18
excited, I might pitch it to
35:21
maybe, you know, or maybe even Armando
35:23
Iannucci will get a cheap version
35:25
of this. I don't see that happening. We
35:28
can see him if we can get him on the bugle to talk about it. If
35:31
you're listening Armando, to come on
35:33
any time. In other tech
35:36
news, it's turned that misinformation
35:38
on TikTok, Tiff, has been
35:41
turning women away from using the
35:43
contraceptive pill. I've
35:45
long thought that the internet is
35:48
essentially replacing organised religion. It essentially
35:50
fulfils the same role as God,
35:52
that it knows everything about every
35:55
aspect of your life and
35:57
it's massively judgemental towards women. uncanny
36:00
resemblance and clearly this is
36:03
another manifestation of that,
36:05
the internet basically taken over the role
36:07
that was traditionally performed by
36:10
the world's great religions. Well yeah, I think
36:12
we need a morning after pill for the
36:14
internet itself, one that
36:17
gets rid of the seed of every bad idea that's
36:19
been planted in your brain. I think
36:21
going outside and going for a walk
36:23
is probably the real life version of
36:25
that. But yeah, trending on TikTok at
36:27
the moment, pull out is trending on
36:29
TikTok, the rhythm method, the crossing your
36:31
fingers method or my personal method, the
36:33
algorithm method. That's where you spend
36:36
so long trolling the internet, both parties lose
36:38
interest in having sex. It's a
36:40
very effective contraception.
36:43
I found the lifelong obsession with cricket statistics
36:45
works pretty well as well actually. Stop me
36:48
till I'm soft baby. Family
36:56
show. Women's
37:01
health leaders are concerned that nonsense
37:03
about hormonal contraception posted on TikTok
37:06
and Instagram is driving a
37:08
dramatic rise in unplanned pregnancies and abortions.
37:11
So there's videos out there with hundreds of
37:13
thousands of views from
37:15
various influencers claiming that the pill
37:17
is this generation cigarettes. But
37:20
I thought this generation cigarettes was vapes. But
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it's basically
37:26
wellness influencers promoting this who are paid
37:28
to promote alternative methods. You know the
37:30
type that I'm talking about. If you've
37:32
seen them on social media, they want
37:34
to tell you about their youth and
37:36
health, Alexia, and somewhere along the
37:38
line, it contains their own urine. And
37:40
you can buy it. And they'll
37:42
say things like, I don't eat food, I eat
37:44
my feelings. I literally write the emotion I'm feeling
37:46
on a piece of paper and eat it. And
37:48
you can make that more delicious by adding sriracha.
37:50
Please hit subscribe next week. I'll be telling you
37:53
about bumhole bathing. That's where you go into your
37:55
garden, offer your ring piece to the sun. And
37:57
that will unblock any negative emotions you may have
37:59
around. rampant exhibitionism. These
38:03
are the kind of people filling up the ears
38:05
of impressionable young women
38:08
on TikTok. And I sort of understand
38:11
where it comes from because, you know,
38:13
in the 70s, feminism was concerned about
38:15
the fact that male doctors were
38:18
prescribing all this stuff for women, but
38:20
not listening to women's needs or understanding
38:22
women's body and everything
38:24
medically based, all
38:27
medical based research is based on men
38:29
as the default. So you
38:31
know, there should be a healthy amount of
38:33
skepticism around stuff that's
38:35
historically gone before, but there has to be a
38:37
middle ground between, between that and
38:39
this kind of like, yeah, sure, just
38:42
pull out. Actually, if you do it
38:44
standing up, you can't, you know, you're going back to
38:46
like teenage. If you
38:48
do it standing up, you're not going to get pregnant.
38:50
I mean, what's, where's it going to
38:52
end? Well, I mean, I
38:54
think if you do it whilst
38:57
thinking about 1980s Wimbledon finals,
38:59
that's, you probably won't get pregnant
39:01
there either. I mean, spread that, spread
39:03
that rumor. Particularly
39:06
Conor's Mac in room. I shouldn't be
39:08
using TikTok for finding kidney
39:11
stone treatments by watching some of
39:13
these videos. So, TikTok,
39:17
MD is like doogie Howser MD is
39:19
and it's literally kids. It's
39:22
like the same. It's just children telling
39:24
other children what to, I saw one
39:27
the other day that was about dry
39:29
shampoo and this woman going, I recommend
39:31
this dry shampoo over this one. And
39:33
like, because there's toxic chemicals in, in,
39:35
in this dry shampoo, because there's the
39:38
things you don't want a butane and propane.
39:40
I'm like the things that
39:42
make aerosols work. I mean,
39:45
those are literally, so you
39:47
can't recommend another aerosol. Like
39:50
aren't they the propellants? Am I missing something? I
39:52
thought those were the things that made an aerosol
39:55
be an aerosol. With my hair care
39:58
regime, it's neat butane and neat propane. four
40:00
times a day. So
40:03
you can go to a barbershop or a petrol dump. Annabell,
40:09
let's finish with some entertainment news from
40:12
India. Well, the latest sort of ticket
40:14
price controversy, we had the Oasis reunion
40:17
tickets over here, people complaining about how
40:19
much they were costing in the hotels
40:22
and things putting their prices up around it. Coldplay
40:26
have been causing a bit of
40:28
a rumpus in India with the secondary market
40:30
for their tickets for their shows next year.
40:33
Coldplay, big band from your country,
40:35
Andy, very big, I think, in
40:37
the 1900s and subsequently. New
40:40
in India, big
40:42
fan base. But basically,
40:45
we have about 1% of this
40:47
country listens to English music. And
40:51
so about, you know, say maybe a few
40:53
hundred thousand people were expected to buy tickets.
40:56
They put 180,000 tickets on sale on a
40:58
website called Book My Show, which is sort
41:01
of India's ticket master. And 42
41:04
million people tried to buy tickets.
41:08
What I know, this is my cadad. Basically,
41:11
now the government's got involved in
41:13
they're saying that essentially, what
41:16
Book My Show tried to do is make it
41:18
democratic. And India being the
41:20
technology capital of the world, a bunch
41:22
of bots and server farms got
41:24
involved, bought all those tickets and put
41:27
it on reselling platforms like Firecogo. And
41:29
the tickets were being resold for 9000 pounds.
41:34
Now, there is a
41:37
fan base for Coldplay in India, I'm sure. I
41:40
don't know how many Gen Z Indian
41:42
kids are running out to buy 9000 pound
41:45
tickets for Coldplay. So
41:47
the debate going on in India was,
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you know, are there these
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many Coldplay fans in India? Because
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the Mumbai queue, there's a queue. So you signed
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up to buy tickets. It was all at one
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time,
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